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| author | Roberto E. Vargas Caballero <k0ga@shike2.com> | 2014-07-24 19:56:58 +0200 |
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| committer | Roberto E. Vargas Caballero <k0ga@shike2.com> | 2014-07-25 17:09:27 +0200 |
| commit | f210ea26c444607980d5de17ed7d4e62bb813631 (patch) | |
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Add info about Backspace and Delete to the FAQ
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| @@ -98,3 +98,61 @@ If you want to compile st for OpenBSD you have to remove -lrt from config.mk, an | |||
| 98 | st will compile without any loss of functionality, because all the functions are | 98 | st will compile without any loss of functionality, because all the functions are |
| 99 | included in libc on this platform. | 99 | included in libc on this platform. |
| 100 | 100 | ||
| 101 | ## Backspace key does not work | ||
| 102 | |||
| 103 | This is an issue that was discussed in suckless mailing list | ||
| 104 | <http://lists.suckless.org/dev/1404/20697.html>: | ||
| 105 | |||
| 106 | Well, I am going to comment why I want to change the behaviour | ||
| 107 | of this key. When ascii was defined in 1968 communication | ||
| 108 | with computers were done using punched cards, or hardcopy | ||
| 109 | terminals (basically a typewritter machine connected with | ||
| 110 | the computer using a serial port). Due to this, ascii defines | ||
| 111 | DELETE as 7F, because in the puched cards, it means all the | ||
| 112 | holes of the card punched, so it is a kind of 'phisical | ||
| 113 | delete'. In the same way, BACKSPACE key was a non destructive | ||
| 114 | back space, as in typewriter machines. So, if you wanted | ||
| 115 | to delete a character, you had to BACKSPACE and then DELETE. | ||
| 116 | Other use of BACKSPACE was accented characters, for example | ||
| 117 | 'a BACKSPACE `'. The VT100 had no BACKSPACE key, it was | ||
| 118 | generated using the CONTROL key as another control character | ||
| 119 | (CONTROL key sets to 0 b7 b6 b5, so it converts H (code | ||
| 120 | 0x48) into BACKSPACE (code 0x08)), but it had a DELETE key | ||
| 121 | in a similar position where BACKSPACE key is located today | ||
| 122 | in common PC keyboards. All the terminal emulators emulated | ||
| 123 | correctly the difference between these keys, and backspace | ||
| 124 | key generated a BACKSPACE (^H) and delete key generated a | ||
| 125 | DELETE (^?). | ||
| 126 | |||
| 127 | But the problem arised when Linus Torvald wrote Linux, and | ||
| 128 | he did that the virtual terminal (the terminal emulator | ||
| 129 | integrated in the kernel) returns a DELETE when backspace | ||
| 130 | was pressed, due to the fact of the key in that position | ||
| 131 | in VT100 was a delete key. This created a lot of problems | ||
| 132 | (you can see it in [1] and [2]), and how Linux became the | ||
| 133 | king, a lot of terminal emulators today generate a DELETE | ||
| 134 | when backspace key is pressed in order to avoid problems | ||
| 135 | with linux. It causes that the only way of generating a | ||
| 136 | BACKSPACE in these systems is using CONTROL + H. I also | ||
| 137 | think that emacs had an important point here because CONTROL | ||
| 138 | + H prefix is used in emacs in some commands (help commands). | ||
| 139 | |||
| 140 | From point of view of the kernel, you can change the key | ||
| 141 | for deleting a previous character with stty erase. When you | ||
| 142 | connect a real terminal into a machine you describe the | ||
| 143 | type of terminal, so getty configure the correct value of | ||
| 144 | stty erase for this terminal, but in the case of terminal | ||
| 145 | emulators you don't have any getty that can set the correct | ||
| 146 | value of stty erase, so you always get the default value. | ||
| 147 | So it means that in case of changing the value of the | ||
| 148 | backspace keyboard, you have to add a 'stty erase ^H' into | ||
| 149 | your profile. Of course, other solution can be that st | ||
| 150 | itself modify the value of stty erase. I have usually the | ||
| 151 | inverse problem, when I connect with non Unix machines, and | ||
| 152 | I have to press control + h to get a BACKSPACE, or the | ||
| 153 | inverse, when a user connects to my unix machines from a | ||
| 154 | different system with a correct backspace key. | ||
| 155 | |||
| 156 | [1] http://www.ibb.net/~anne/keyboard.html | ||
| 157 | [2] http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO-5.html | ||
| 158 | |||
